Mr. Richard Harris: Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The hon. member knows full well that he cannot use those kind of words when describing things that the government is saying or has said. Calling this government a liars or accusing this government of telling lies is simply not acceptable in this Parliament. He knows that. He has been around 17 years, as I have.

Mr. Richard Harris (Cariboo—Prince George, CPC): Mr. Speaker, while the member attempts to convince Canadians that the numbers that he is using are comparative to the actual cost of putting on an exercise like a G20 or a G8, in fact, he is not comparing apples to apples. The conferences that he mentioned are in no way comparable to what we are planning and what the other countries have done, where it cost them $1 billion or $1.5 billion, as well, the number in Japan in that I just finished reporting again for about the fourth time in the House today. Why is it that these Liberal members refuse to acknowledge that is an actual real number of a conference like what we are planning in Canada here? It cost $1 billion in Japan to put that on. It cost $1 billion in Canada to put that on.